Saturday, May 30, 2009

In a discussion, generalities are treated as absolutes.

Internet Rule 3: In a discussion, generalities are treated as absolutes.

The third rule of the Internet is for some harder to wrap their minds around than that of the first two, while the initial pair of rules cover the concept of self-centredness of users, the tertiary and it's kin are more related to the self-righteousness and hubris of users.  A link to the source material: Internet Rule 1 through 39  Which I have not linked in the prior rule-specific posts because I figure linking it every time isn't needed, but maybe someone reading this may not have started from post zero.

This is true of all places, be they real, online or metaphysical, but because interactions between users on the Internet are often delayed, the responses made by users inevitably jump to conclusions without considering the words used by their honoured co-discusser fully.  One would think the opposite would be true, in a locationless void where a discussion can take the better part of a month to complete, one would come to expect an absolutely engrossed and fine-tuned coalescing of thought every time a user makes a comment.

Should a user state, "women suck at sports," it is very obviously a generalization, and in a face-to-face talk, some may take offence to this statement, indicating several easily regonised examples of women so far beyond the abilities of the average man, as to make the statement not simply invalid, but silly.  In online discussions, the same may be attempted when a flawed generalisation is made, but does not always work, these attempts to correct a piece of faulty logic tend to be steamrolled over, ignored outright, or accepted without question.  Admittedly, this example is not so easily held up in a serious debate, but not all users treat a discussion with an equal level of commitment.

There are innumerable examples of flawed generalisations being used as centre points in arguments, but for this I shall make a singular example available, drawn at random from a Google search.  "White Men Don't Find Asian Women Hot," well, it's hard to put this to a perfect rest, since I don't have a study group, but we'll give it a whirl.  The argument:

The type of Asian women that white men consider hot are the Asian women who bleach their hair (like white women)to a reddish blonde or dark ash blonde color, get boob enhancements (usually), get eyelid surgery (to resemble white eyes), other surgeries (like nose, cheekbones - to mimic whites), and wear lots of makeup (Hollywood). Also, Asian women resort to fake eyelashes to make their sparse lashes seem fuller like some Mediterranean women with lots of hairy lashes.
Of course, white women do these enhancements, too, but they don't try to change their ethnicity like Asians do.
More natural-looking Asian women really aren't considered hot by white men. It's only the Asian women who try to look white that are regarded as hot, but at that point, it's merely the copying of the white image or the pursuit of the white image that white men find so hot.

Now, I find this unusual, because I myself find such things unsettling.  Women who look unnatural tend to give me the heebidy-jeebidies, because they look unreal, perhaps even surreal.  So, who can I call upon in this instance, at least to help fight this unusual perspective?  The Internet of course, Rate This Asian . Com, you're our new study group.  A shame you don't restrict your voters to only white men ages 18 to 45.

We look to the site's, "The Top 25 Hottest Women," to see what appears to be the most attractive 25 asian women this study group is being shown.  This site includes any women from Indian to Japanese, and anything you may find in between.

18 of the women popular in the top 25 have dark hair, 6 do not have a pronounced epicanthic fold around the eyes, 5 do not have b-cup sized breasts, 5 have pale skin, 2 have brownish skin, 1 golden pale, the rest are lightly tanned.  Nothing this poster seems to have stated, if we assume our study group to be white men, is actually holding water.  These people are pretty much just attracted to young asian women with athletic body types.  So no overwhelming hair colour issue exists within our group, and they seem to like women who seem to be east-asian, who look, "squinty-eyed," with lightly browned skinned, instead of darker skinned asians, such as Dravidians or snow white like Geisha dolls.

This does reflect the person's posting about the potential, "whitification," if I can call it that, of beauty, but the points in their argument, which they stated as fact, were in truth over reaching statements without real numbers to back them, there is a range of what appear to be preferred traits in asian women, and while some of those women look more european than others, it is not an absolute truth.

So Hawk, the original poster was, based on this flawed study group, not entirely right, and instead simply over generalised the way asian women are being judged, in this case, by small selection of random people from what can be assumed is a mostly english speaking base, since the entire website RateThisAsian.Com is in english.

I really wish I could have used a better source, but http://www.rankmyphotos.com/ and http://www.hotornot.com/ were awful websites I could not stand using, and I could find no better alternative.

Here ends my look at Internet rule number 3.

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